None of them along the line know what any of it is worth.

[constance]

I just watched the season finale of Battlestar Galactica, and I know I should've watched it weeks ago, but it took me a while to get those last episodes downloaded. But now I've watched it, and I really really want to talk about it. I mean! Gosh!

I don't even know where to start, honestly -- I just feel all keyed up and agog and even though I sort of guessed some of the twists, in the way that I guess twists, one of about six possibles floating around in my head and one turns out to be right and I'm not convinced it's really going to happen until it does, that doesn't mean I didn't watch it all going down with my mouth hanging open.

Wait, I do know where to start. It occurred to me that things might be headed for cylonhood for the music-hearers as soon as I realized not everyone was hearing the music, and then all I really needed to do was make note of who was hearing it and who wasn't to guess who those cylons might be. And then when they started quoting lyrics and I realized what song they were hearing, I just started laughing, because.

Okay, you know, none of the Cylons ever really talk about their God in any way but the most nebulous and general way, as far as I can recall, but when they started quoting lyrics, I suddenly started laughing because more than just about anything in the world, what I wanted right then was for the Cylons' monotheism to be centered around Bob Dylan. I wanted "All Along the Watchtower" to be some kind of ancient sacred hymn.

So what did you think of the season finale? Please share, I'm begging you!

Comments

[ainsley.livejournal.com]

Saw this on friendsfriends, and thought I'd share, since you ARE begging, and I just watched the entire series to date for the first time a couple of weeks ago.

The finale was really quite intense, wasn't it? I'd accidentally spoiled myself for almost everything (damn that Wikipedia!), and knew from other sources that Starbuck wasn't dead, and it still sucked me in and held me in its thrall.

I wonder when the new Cylons are going to share that information, and how the humans are going to escape their current predicament.

[tofty.livejournal.com]

Oooh, I'm really glad I wasn't spoiled for anything but Kara's reappearance, but I'm not sure it would've made a difference anyway, because you're right, it was mesmerizing. So surreal! And it makes me want to go back and watch the entire series over again with this episode in mind.

I want to know more about the Cylons, too. How they figure in to the Cylon infrastructure, why the Cylons don't talk about them. How long they can hold to their own inclinations against whatever programming might override them. And I wonder what enormous trouble Baltar's going to cause, and I wonder what's going to happen with the standoff they've left us with, and I wonder where Kara's been...

Oh, God. I should have waited till like the night before the Season 4 premiere to watch this. How many months again?

[ainsley.livejournal.com]

Too many months. Far too many.

How much did the seven even know about the five? Was it that they didn't discuss them because they didn't know anything, or because the split was too much to cross?

And, of course, how did Kara make it to Earth and back?

[tofty.livejournal.com]

I KNOW.

Well, and who's the last Cylon? Is it Kara or Roslin (my top two choices, after this episode), or someone else?

*screams in frustration, watches finale again*

[ainsley.livejournal.com]

Well, for the twelfth to be more dramatic than the four, it has to be Roslin, Kara, or one of the Adamas. They've resisted having both people in a couple be Cylons, which would make me think not Kara, because she's been paired with Leoben and Anders, but maybe so if she's going to be with Lee.

And now that four of the five have been revealed, are their now going to be clones of Tigh et al? If so, have the clones been in the Resurrection ships the entire time? And if that's the case, then why did no one peek?

[tofty.livejournal.com]

Oooh, my friend onthecontrary posted a theory back when the finale was still fresh for everybody except you and me (but which I have just read), and she has a theory about the four new Cylons that I really like and which explains both why the other Cylons won't talk about them and why they were all four involved heavily in the resistance movement: that they originally sided with the humans and broke the faith with the Cylons.

[ainsley.livejournal.com]

I didn't read Keri's take on it (I've met her a couple of times IRL), but I've seen that idea elsewhere.

Perhaps if the 12th is Roslin, it's so she can bring Cylon and human together into one peaceful future?

[tofty.livejournal.com]

Maybe, but I hope that if things play out this way, Roslin is at her most sweetly, ruthlessly Machiavellian as it's happening (as opposed to, say, drug-addled and hallucinating), 'cos that is my very favorite mode of Roslin.

[ainsley.livejournal.com]

Ooh, she does ruthless Machiavellian so very well (I knew there had to be a use for that BA in polisci! It means I've actually read Machiavelli. Which...is of no practical value to me, and of little other value as I don't remember a whit of it).

So, perhaps she dies from the cancer relapse, and then! Another Roslin appears, which is how we discover her to be a Cylon! And no one knew until then!

[tofty.livejournal.com]

Hahahahahaha, hooray for useless liberal arts eddications!

I wonder if Cylons can get cancer. :?

[ainsley.livejournal.com]

Oh, scheisse, I'd forgotten that. That would indeed make it difficult for 12 to be Roslin. While they could use the same explanation they use for Tigh to explain Roslin or Adama being 12, it remains that were 12 Adama then Hera would not be the first hybrid (unless Adama became a Cylon later?). That leaves Lee and Kara, and between those my money'd have to be on Kara.

Liberal arts educations are ALWAYS for the win. Just not always for the paycheck.

[tofty.livejournal.com]

Liberal arts educations are ALWAYS for the win. Just not always for the paycheck.

Don't I know it.

[ainsley.livejournal.com]

I've never said this before, but resistance appears futile.

O RLY?

What sort of LA ed did you receive? (I'm a bit of an education geek. It's one of my many and varied forms of geekery.)

[tofty.livejournal.com]

I have Art History, with minors in English and Anthropolgy (emphasis on folklore). I am proud to say that I probably have one of the top ten useless degrees of all time. Only Philosophy would kick me any higher, I think!

[octoberstory.livejournal.com]

PUT THAT THING OUT THE AIRLOCK.

[tofty.livejournal.com]

I am going to wipe the floor with you, Gaius.

[octoberstory.livejournal.com]

I love Gaius because even though Roslin scares the living shit out of him, he'd still fuck her. And they're both probably aware of that, too. And even knowing that she knows it, he'd STILL do it just because he's an arse.

[tofty.livejournal.com]

Too true, too true, but I forgive him that, since Roslin is pretty fucking hot. The thing that I find both repellent and endearing about Baltar is that I'm pretty sure that he thinks of all strong women on the show that way. Witness his night with Kara (and the subsequent mini-crisis that caused), the fact that the Six in his head called him on his attraction to Sharon, his side project with D'Anna, etc.

He's such a fucking weasel, and I adore him for it. Do you remember that top five list we played at long ago, our top five characters we love in fiction but would revile in real life? If I were to remake that list now, Gaius Baltar would top it.